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Breaking the open web won't stop the bad bots

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Oct 30, 2026First seen

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309
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134
Submitted by
raybb
Posted
Oct 27, 2026
Site
techpolicy.press

Story details from Hacker News ↗ · linked article on techpolicy.press.

Trending history

Breaking the open web won't stop the bad bots was first seen on Hacker News · Front page on Oct 30, 2026. Since then it has appeared in 102 checks on 2 different days. Its best position was #5 of 30, reached on Oct 31, 18:37 UTC. It dropped off the list after Oct 31, 18:37 UTC.

Rank history

Position on Hacker News · Front page at every check (lower is better).

#1#11#20#30 17:2223:4105:5912:1818:37 Oct 30, 17:22 UTC · #28Oct 30, 17:37 UTC · #26Oct 30, 17:52 UTC · #22Oct 30, 18:07 UTC · #22Oct 30, 18:22 UTC · #21Oct 30, 18:37 UTC · #20Oct 30, 18:52 UTC · #19Oct 30, 19:07 UTC · #20Oct 30, 19:22 UTC · #18Oct 30, 19:37 UTC · #18Oct 30, 19:52 UTC · #18Oct 30, 20:07 UTC · #17Oct 30, 20:22 UTC · #16Oct 30, 20:37 UTC · #13Oct 30, 20:52 UTC · #12Oct 30, 21:07 UTC · #11Oct 30, 21:22 UTC · #11Oct 30, 21:37 UTC · #11Oct 30, 21:52 UTC · #11Oct 30, 22:07 UTC · #11Oct 30, 22:22 UTC · #11Oct 30, 22:37 UTC · #11Oct 30, 22:52 UTC · #10Oct 30, 23:07 UTC · #10Oct 30, 23:22 UTC · #10Oct 30, 23:37 UTC · #10Oct 30, 23:52 UTC · #10Oct 31, 00:07 UTC · #10Oct 31, 00:22 UTC · #10Oct 31, 00:37 UTC · #11Oct 31, 00:52 UTC · #10Oct 31, 01:07 UTC · #11Oct 31, 01:22 UTC · #12Oct 31, 01:37 UTC · #12Oct 31, 01:52 UTC · #12Oct 31, 02:07 UTC · #12Oct 31, 02:22 UTC · #12Oct 31, 02:37 UTC · #11Oct 31, 02:52 UTC · #10Oct 31, 03:07 UTC · #10Oct 31, 03:22 UTC · #10Oct 31, 03:37 UTC · #10Oct 31, 03:52 UTC · #10Oct 31, 04:07 UTC · #11Oct 31, 04:22 UTC · #11Oct 31, 04:37 UTC · #10Oct 31, 04:52 UTC · #10Oct 31, 05:07 UTC · #10Oct 31, 05:22 UTC · #10Oct 31, 05:37 UTC · #11Oct 31, 05:52 UTC · #11Oct 31, 06:07 UTC · #10Oct 31, 06:22 UTC · #10Oct 31, 06:37 UTC · #9Oct 31, 06:52 UTC · #10Oct 31, 07:07 UTC · #10Oct 31, 07:22 UTC · #10Oct 31, 07:37 UTC · #10Oct 31, 07:52 UTC · #10Oct 31, 08:07 UTC · #10Oct 31, 08:22 UTC · #10Oct 31, 08:37 UTC · #10Oct 31, 08:52 UTC · #9Oct 31, 09:07 UTC · #9Oct 31, 09:22 UTC · #9Oct 31, 09:37 UTC · #9Oct 31, 09:52 UTC · #9Oct 31, 10:07 UTC · #9Oct 31, 10:22 UTC · #9Oct 31, 10:37 UTC · #9Oct 31, 10:52 UTC · #9Oct 31, 11:07 UTC · #9Oct 31, 11:22 UTC · #8Oct 31, 11:37 UTC · #8Oct 31, 11:52 UTC · #8Oct 31, 12:07 UTC · #8Oct 31, 12:22 UTC · #8Oct 31, 12:37 UTC · #8Oct 31, 12:52 UTC · #9Oct 31, 13:07 UTC · #9Oct 31, 13:22 UTC · #9Oct 31, 13:37 UTC · #9Oct 31, 13:52 UTC · #9Oct 31, 14:07 UTC · #9Oct 31, 14:22 UTC · #9Oct 31, 14:37 UTC · #9Oct 31, 14:52 UTC · #9Oct 31, 15:07 UTC · #9Oct 31, 15:22 UTC · #9Oct 31, 15:37 UTC · #9Oct 31, 15:52 UTC · #9Oct 31, 16:07 UTC · #9Oct 31, 16:22 UTC · #9Oct 31, 16:37 UTC · #8Oct 31, 16:52 UTC · #7Oct 31, 17:07 UTC · #7Oct 31, 17:22 UTC · #8Oct 31, 17:37 UTC · #7Oct 31, 17:52 UTC · #7Oct 31, 18:07 UTC · #8Oct 31, 18:22 UTC · #7Oct 31, 18:37 UTC · #5

Last 14 days

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Metric history

Platform metric as reported by Hacker News.

0104208315 17:2223:4105:5912:1818:37 Oct 30, 17:22 UTC · 8Oct 30, 17:37 UTC · 14Oct 30, 17:52 UTC · 22Oct 30, 18:07 UTC · 32Oct 30, 18:22 UTC · 36Oct 30, 18:37 UTC · 48Oct 30, 18:52 UTC · 49Oct 30, 19:07 UTC · 55Oct 30, 19:22 UTC · 69Oct 30, 19:37 UTC · 75Oct 30, 19:52 UTC · 82Oct 30, 20:07 UTC · 88Oct 30, 20:22 UTC · 97Oct 30, 20:37 UTC · 104Oct 30, 20:52 UTC · 112Oct 30, 21:07 UTC · 118Oct 30, 21:22 UTC · 121Oct 30, 21:37 UTC · 125Oct 30, 21:52 UTC · 131Oct 30, 22:07 UTC · 135Oct 30, 22:22 UTC · 140Oct 30, 22:37 UTC · 145Oct 30, 22:52 UTC · 153Oct 30, 23:07 UTC · 155Oct 30, 23:22 UTC · 159Oct 30, 23:37 UTC · 165Oct 30, 23:52 UTC · 165Oct 31, 00:07 UTC · 170Oct 31, 00:22 UTC · 175Oct 31, 00:37 UTC · 177Oct 31, 00:52 UTC · 182Oct 31, 01:07 UTC · 183Oct 31, 01:22 UTC · 187Oct 31, 01:37 UTC · 188Oct 31, 01:52 UTC · 189Oct 31, 02:07 UTC · 192Oct 31, 02:22 UTC · 195Oct 31, 02:37 UTC · 202Oct 31, 02:52 UTC · 203Oct 31, 03:07 UTC · 203Oct 31, 03:22 UTC · 204Oct 31, 03:37 UTC · 207Oct 31, 03:52 UTC · 208Oct 31, 04:07 UTC · 209Oct 31, 04:22 UTC · 212Oct 31, 04:37 UTC · 215Oct 31, 04:52 UTC · 219Oct 31, 05:07 UTC · 222Oct 31, 05:22 UTC · 223Oct 31, 05:37 UTC · 223Oct 31, 05:52 UTC · 224Oct 31, 06:07 UTC · 229Oct 31, 06:22 UTC · 231Oct 31, 06:37 UTC · 234Oct 31, 06:52 UTC · 235Oct 31, 07:07 UTC · 239Oct 31, 07:22 UTC · 241Oct 31, 07:37 UTC · 243Oct 31, 07:52 UTC · 246Oct 31, 08:07 UTC · 250Oct 31, 08:22 UTC · 254Oct 31, 08:37 UTC · 256Oct 31, 08:52 UTC · 258Oct 31, 09:07 UTC · 258Oct 31, 09:22 UTC · 258Oct 31, 09:37 UTC · 259Oct 31, 09:52 UTC · 259Oct 31, 10:07 UTC · 260Oct 31, 10:22 UTC · 265Oct 31, 10:37 UTC · 265Oct 31, 10:52 UTC · 265Oct 31, 11:07 UTC · 268Oct 31, 11:22 UTC · 270Oct 31, 11:37 UTC · 271Oct 31, 11:52 UTC · 271Oct 31, 12:07 UTC · 273Oct 31, 12:22 UTC · 274Oct 31, 12:37 UTC · 277Oct 31, 12:52 UTC · 279Oct 31, 13:07 UTC · 282Oct 31, 13:22 UTC · 283Oct 31, 13:37 UTC · 285Oct 31, 13:52 UTC · 286Oct 31, 14:07 UTC · 286Oct 31, 14:22 UTC · 288Oct 31, 14:37 UTC · 291Oct 31, 14:52 UTC · 291Oct 31, 15:07 UTC · 291Oct 31, 15:22 UTC · 296Oct 31, 15:37 UTC · 299Oct 31, 15:52 UTC · 299Oct 31, 16:07 UTC · 301Oct 31, 16:22 UTC · 302Oct 31, 16:37 UTC · 302Oct 31, 16:52 UTC · 303Oct 31, 17:07 UTC · 305Oct 31, 17:22 UTC · 308Oct 31, 17:37 UTC · 310Oct 31, 17:52 UTC · 311Oct 31, 18:07 UTC · 311Oct 31, 18:22 UTC · 315Oct 31, 18:37 UTC · 315

From the discussion

A few top-level comments from Hacker News, shortened. Read the full thread on Hacker News.

"Knowing the identity behind a crawler tells us relatively little about whether its behavior is harmful. Under the New York bill, a company that discloses its identity and then accesses the website 10,000 times a minute complies with the law even though it is still imposing enormous and likely unjustified costs on…

Genuinely asking here: is there a future where we end up with a version of the open web where everything isn’t paywalled or ID gated? The article mentions the IETF is working on standards to deal with the proposed legislature and frustration of site operators. Almost any solution is going to be at the expense of user…

This is exactly what companies like DataDome do, and sometimes Cloudflare continues to, when their bot protection pages enter endless loops. They don't even realize they are ruining the UX for thousands of legitimate users with their faulty JS browser fingerprinting verifications.

Questions

Is Breaking the open web won't stop the bad bots trending on Hacker News right now?

Not at the moment. It was last on the list on Oct 31, 18:37 UTC, after 2 days of trending.

What is the highest rank Breaking the open web won't stop the bad bots reached?

#5 on Hacker News · Front page, on Oct 31, 18:37 UTC. Trendoday checks this list every 15 minutes.

How long has Breaking the open web won't stop the bad bots been trending?

It was first seen on Oct 30, 2026 and has been on the list on 2 days (102 checks) since.

How much discussion did it get on Hacker News?

309 points and 134 comments; submitted by raybb on Oct 27, 2026.